072!

Restaurants have to treat their customers well too, or else they won’t come back to pay for more food.

We aren’t going to kick people out for eating with the wrong hand. We’ll kick them out for throwing soup at other customers.

Again. If you can’t handle that, leave. We are not a government. We do our best to remain impartial and do things in the interest of the community, but we’re human. 072 screwed up, but that does not mean we need to write The P2D Manifesto.

CMC, Rundas45, Zurginator (where’s my 3 cookies?) Also, while its good to have a democracy, most people wouldn’t take any action, and people could get away with crazy shiza. (german for shit)
It would be anarchy. We need people in charge. Just live with it. It’s not gonna change.

Edit: @ Dazzy, LOL

Zurginator isn’t a team member, CMC is currently working on a private project with Rundas.

Daz, a key difference is that while the restaurant belongs to the owner, and he bears the brunt of his own mistakes, P2D doesn’t belong to anybody in a strict sense. There are hundreds of contributors, and it’s passed hands too many times for you to be able to say that you can do whatever you like with it. If it was really yours to do whatever you want with, then sure, you can do what you want and if it doesn’t work then that’s your own damn problem. But right now your goal should be to try and finish the project, and that means creating a welcoming atmosphere and bridging the admin-member gap as well as possible.

In addition, that’s simply not true, as has been shown quite adeptly with me and Zurg.

Also, I don’t want to leave, but I certainly would if I had any interest in being on the team and helping the project. Luckily, the reason I come here hasn’t been P2D for a long time.

So you’ve never heard of a restaurant changing ownership? Interesting.

Um…Shit in German is Scheisse (not sure if that’s spelled correctly. Might not be a “c” in there…)…Just, uh, throwing that out there. And the only reason I know that is because my German teacher told us this time where she accidentally mispronounced “fooling around” and said “Shitting around” when she taught in Germany. It was an interesting story, one my high school peers found entertaining enough to mimic, much to her displeasure.

Whoops, I just noticed that you and I probably just have different spellings, Ashes. I could see how someone could misspell Scheisse upon hearing it. But I know that it is not spelled with a “z”. Just an FYI.

Also, last I checked (although the rules are being changed), profanity is not against the rules, as long as it is controlled and not in excess. But Daz already covered that. Bah, whatever.

Call me immature, but when Dazzy said premises, I thought he said penises >_>
I’m glad to see Zurg’s Barrackoli face back, and glad to…see him back…
And I had no idea about the profanity rule. That should be changed. However, I will not argue with another opinion. I just think freedom of speech should apply to profanity as well. >_>
But that also backfires in many ways, so my only reason to back that up is that having a restriction on your own language when you want to say something is quite pressuring.

In this case the ownership passes hands between the the managers and the customers. It’s not quite the same.

Because naturally we elect our admins once every four years.

Look, it’s not a perfect analogy, but it’s a hell of a lot closer than yours.

Again, not is, should be.

Let me put it this way - the things we cannot change about P2D, particularly the team structure, are best fitted by a system like a democratic republic, not a restaurant.

There is no reason for this place to be a democracy, be it now or in the future.

Hmmm… I have two theories right now.

A) You’re pissed that you got demoted from moderator position, and as a result want other mods to lose power as well.

B) You’re, what, 15? 16 now? Perhaps you’re just hitting the typical adolescent rebellious stage, and thought you’d target a forum administration instead of your parents for some reason.

not so private
and also im working on ALOT of projects

FSMR
MC2D
Evo (mine)
FoZ (Rundas’)
anything i can for P2D i try to do

there might be more, but i cant remember xD

Oh you’re clever. If I was pissed about being demoted from moderator, I’d probably actually be intent on taking care of P2D.
But you’re spot on for #2. Although I’m 17.

Reasons for this place being a democracy:

  1. The moderators’ detachment makes the joining process daunting for newcomers.
  2. The moderators are largely absent. With democracy, the amount of governing that takes place will be roughly proportional to the number of members present.
  3. The chief concern of the forums is, like I keep saying, to generate interest in the project. Democracy is an appealing concept, and unique as far as online forums go.

It would be unique because it has no place in a forum.

You know what else is unique? A thread dedicated to posting pictures of dead whales.

Doesn’t make it a good idea, even if it does appeal to a few sick freaks.

Democracy is appealing to more people than dead whales are appealing to, I’d reckon, and the reason it’s unique is because it takes a lot of work to set in motion as compared to a dictatorship. The way invisionfree looks at forum ownership makes dictatorships impossible to overthrow. All you have to do is start a forum and you already have absolute power.

you could ban someone for misspelling something!

I would just like to point out that in fact, you do not own it, Invision Free does.

Not that it really makes a difference.

Edit: Analogy:
Mods=Managers
They don’t own the place but they are in charge.

Well, uh… fair enough, I guess.

Though to be fair, if the restaurant is on US soil, the government still has authority over it, just like how Invision has authority over us. <_<

It’s a stretch, but hey, I’ll fight to the death before I relinquish my lovingly crafted metaphors!

Or not.

the US government thing makes more sense to me. The US government doesn’t step in until something’s wrong or you skip on your taxes or something. Same with invision, except skipping your taxes is more like posting porn links.

never seen it.

I guess you could say I’m on the FoZ project as well, but I need teaching and exp… :confused: