Also, we don’t take kindly to people quoting people and changing their names to offensive things, especially when it’s something that’s only offensive if you’re a sexist dick.
Which apparently you are. warns
Not to mention your asshole-ish reaction to people calling you by your name. Don’t like it? THEN WHY DID YOU CHOOSE IT?
50Mb? That’s nothing.
I download about 1Megabyte /second so it will not even take one minute to download those 50Mb.
And could you share you computer specs?
I know a bit C++… and I bet you so called “code” were made by a crackmonkey at the zoo.
Sure, you can optimize your code until the day of reconing, but that just prove that you suck.
And yes, I will call you Something.
So, Something, It would be fun if you could tell me why you whine over a few Mb and why you think that you are the only one that knows a thing or two about coding.
And, Something; Why are you so aggressive? 
About the ‘few MB’… For anyone with 56K, that would take about six hours to download. Maybe three, if it’s going particularly fast. At least with my crazy computer…
And this is why people need to provide proof of concept/engine in order for people to believe their fangame.
Oh well … good luck anyway.
IMO, release you’re engine if you dont intend on coming back to it … if you do, then come back to it!
EDIT:
Serus those examples are very basic examples of C code … not C++. I dont think anyone here is going “WTF?” over those. C++ does give you more power but not any more that you need. GM automates Classes for you (Thats what an object technically is). GM automates all file input/output streams for you, you can use the interface or you can use prescripted functions. In C++ theres several lines of code you have to write and then you would probably need a #include of some kind that gives you the functions to decode the file and display it as an image.
You dont have to believe me … but after a few months of learning you may realise it yourself that C++ is not really any harder than GML but instead just a lot more work. Sure if you’re going to be a professional developer with a 60 man team then fine, but you should start somewhere feasible on small projects and GM gives those “small projects” the opportunity to be more than guessing-games or text-adventures.
Okay…idk what you guys saying but I’ll be guessing that you guys are is arguing about something.
Lets all get together and calm down.
Are people still using those stoneage modems? Don’t you at least have the possibility to use ADSL/DSL?
loud, long sigh
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First of all, game size depends almost entirely on resources–the more sprites and MIDIs/MP3s you have, the larger the game. The programming part is really small compared to those things. P2D is not going to be 20MB any time soon–that won’t even be the final Frigate demo. C++ may condense the programming a little further, but it really won’t make that much of a difference when the programming doesn’t take up much space compared to the rest of the game anyway. Size is definitely not the biggest difference between C++ and GM.
And Serus, look how this whole thing began. SmartDude asked if you were still here, and you rudely told him to never call you that. He pointed out that you weren’t a God and couldn’t just demand things like that, and you threw it back in his face some more, even calling him “SmartGirl”. Then elsewhere, he told you that the GM tutorials usually only cover really basic things. You threw that in his face even more, with some confusing rant full of really weird ignorant statements.
Serus, you are not calm. You’ve been treating SD47 like dirt ever since you met him. Well, you’ve been treating everyone like that, but SD47 definitely the most so far, since he’s triggered both of your rants.
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And Butch, some people aren’t exactly rich, or live in an area with good online deals. (ie, one service provider in the area = no competition = higher prices)
I had 56k until December of last year.
Exactly how expensive could ADSL be?
I pay around 55$ a month for 8Mbit. That’s around 400 swedish crowns. And I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere, so I know how fun it is to have nothing to choose from.
Also, $55 a month? You can get internet for as low as $10.95, which is what the parents of the family, who only use the computer for word-processing and e-mail checking, will choose. The kids will have almost no say unless they pay for it themselves.
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But anyway, those of you with modems can always get MP2D/MP22D from a friend who has high-speed internet if they end up too big.
As a regular computer nerd who plays games and uses the internet for 90% of his daily routine … I cant imagine surviving on a 56k Modem. But heh … I get your point but it still naturally disgusts me though… lol.
wow! I guess changing subjects does work sometimes. Well I was going to quote what Troid92 said but after this I guess I dont want to start anything again.
woah Tenka if you think you couldnt imagine surviving withought DSL or broadband or someting, come to my house and try doing stuff, you’ll certainly…die! 
I got 56k Modem, but it never runs on 56k just 6 or 5kb…
That is 56 kilobit. 56/8=max 7 kilobyte per second. And you’ll never get to use 100% of your connection.
ohhh I thought 57k meant like 57kB use or osmehting…well that sux
I’m not going to get into this argument so, why don’t both of you just calm alot. I’m agreing with Daz in some parts not all. :O_O: :O_O: 
Tsk tsk. Thats good to hear that everybody is calmed down. Exlactly how we gonna plan out the demo before starting anything…except the sprite part.
Well maybe if you goto the forum you’ll see a lit of all the stuff im doing. Oh wait the list it being refined.
EDIT: what was the tsk tsk for?
agreed
so how do you plan on doing scan visor? will there be lots of scans, like the primes?
So we can we put all this behind us??
what do you mean like the primes??goes back to delete more stuff
I don’t know how are we going to have are first demo of the game, since we have no tiles or backgrounds that are custom made and no enemies.
We need to find some people who are good at making backgrounds and tiles.