No, but seriously, I love Obama!

You don’t seem to realize that many people don’t vote. Either school/work/whatever prevents them, or they’re just lazy, or they don’t know who to vote for, or they cast protest votes instead, or …

Bush winning does not mean he’s liked by a majority. It means he’s liked by a majority of people who voted.

As for the weapons issue, again, the problem largely comes from the history of our country. Regardless of whether it works elsewhere, we A) have it in our Constitution, so people would riot like hell if we tried to fix it, and B) have many parts big on hunting/self defense/etc. Some of us may not like them, but we ain’t gonna change enough minds to fix it.

Also, I like how you complain about our stereotypes of Swedes in TV and then start stereotyping Americans based on TV.

Finally, on the police brutality thing. You have a point, but it’s irrelevant. Most entertainment forms are about things we don’t condone. Do you really think a majority of GTA players want to go around shooting cops and running over hookers? You mention Lost–well, that show has a hell of a lot of violence and strife as well. “Oh, but those are fictional”, you might say.

So? Look at the news. Would you really want to read it if every article was “plane lands safely at JFK Airport”, “dog crosses street safely”, “man pulled over for reckless driving, ticketed and released”, “street light functions properly”…?

Unless something goes wrong (or really well), people don’t care. No one would watch a police show if eventful things didn’t happen. Again, it does not mean we glorify police brutality or plane crashes or dogs dying or car accidents–it just means that it’s more interesting to watch/read about than things going smoothly.

I’m not the most pro american guy out there, but I dont like unreasonable statements. I’ll put my take.

I personally think there’s something wrong with this (not because I’m black and hate the police). But I don’t think people should think it’s alright for justice to have an iron fist. I don’t mind cops, because it’s more reality than biase (and it’s entertaining), but I really wish that we could watch something other than people getting beat up with sticks.

Oh, and shows like MXC, and when animals attack are great, though sometimes for the wrong reason.

Hell, the fact that people getting hurt is funny in America is sorta whacked up, though I’ve grown up with it.

Bush started to become severely hated around the time after his re-election. Things were getting worse, but the media insisted that we were making progress (regardless of whether it’s true or not), so people were willing to ride it out.

Besides, electing a NEW president in the middle of a fricken war is scary, as we’d have NO idea how things would change. The general population would be more comfortable just sticking with who they have at the moment, since they may think it will get better.

On a side note, bush was the governer of my state before he was elected president.

I could honestly go off on right wingests, and pro weapons people, but I’m not going to. I’m against civilians owning weapons, but it’s America, and our country was built on that shit, so whatever.

TV and movies glorify weapons, and it’s entertaining, so that’s what happens. >_>

Bang bang bang!

I have a knife, it’s usefull for creating edible foodstuff, I don’t go out and hurt people, though I’m sure it’d be good in self-defence.
I see guns the same way, though in most cases, you’re defending yourself from guns, so you’d probably be better off without them.
But then, you couldn’t defend yourself from communists, which I understand is a daily threat there.

Also, @Whoever made this topic, isn’t it a bit provocative? I’m no american, so I don’t really know, but Obama seems to have a cool plan. Hillary looks OK, and whoever that other guy is, I’ve never heard anything about him. Yeah.

@PY, that’s probably because the news is blowing the Democratic election way out of proportion. McCain, “The other guy,” seems like a pretty loose republican. Although I honestly couldn’t say much about the guy considering that no one cares about a White guy, it’s either the Black Guy or the Female…>_>

Oh yeah, the two ‘different ones’
McCain doesn’t stand a chance.

Not to mention some of the things he supports can make him look eerily similar to “Bush 2.0.”
…or maybe Bush 3.0 now?
Or it’s possible that Bush was the code name in alpha and beta for Mccain.

And yeah, you’re probably right. Especially if Obama gets the candidacy and chooses Hillary for his vice president <_<.

Oh good god please no. Obama I can stand, I even like on some issues. Hilary…ugh, just thinking of it, even now, send shivers down my spine. Shudders You know, I wouldn’t mind her nearly as much if she had left Bill’s sorry ass after the sex scandal.

I choose to have neither, just ONE ruler of the world. If everyone can see eye to eye without fighting and saying shit about their beliefs.

Ok I did say neither, but I better have Obama.

president of America!=ruler of the world

…if there was one ruler of the world, not only would that work horribly, but they would probably get assassinated every other day.

I elect Tim to be ruler of the world! Jking :wink:

Erm… Contradiction?
If I didn’t have a gun, how would I defend myself from one? Criminals are gonna have them. Period. If it’s against the law… well… don’t they break the law anyways?
And by the way, It’s easier to get a gun from the black market delivered to your house in DC than it is to get a pizza delivery…

You’re right, I get attacked with guns every day here :stuck_out_tongue:
Remove supply, petty criminals won’t have guns.
And who’s good enough to take down someone pointing a gun at them at point blanc range, anyway?

Well… I believe outlawing guns will do about as much good as outlawing crack did.

Or alcohol, more notably?

If they out out fire arms then that will show us that a tyrant is on the rise. That’s if they remove the 2nd Amend.

i don’t get it… wasn’t this topic already locked?

usually if a topic gets locked it’s not a good idea to remake it.

  1. Minimodding isn’t a good idea either.
  2. It was locked because Rewrite came along with his “obama’s a muslim and his lips are too big to lead our country and also he did 9/11” (or bullshit of equal rank) so I blew my top. He hasn’t been around, so I figured it was safe now.

See, it’s funny, the second amendment doesn’t say “the right to own guns,” it says “the right to bear arms.” What’s funny is that they’re two completely different things, considering that it originally meant forming militia, not owning a gun.

What is the point in allowing guns to be purchased for our own private affairs? I’m not talking guns used for hunting, I’m talking about other guns that you aren’t even supposed to use for that purpose. Seriously, they won’t ever take away hunting guns. But why should people be able to purchase guns meant for other purposes? If we have guns laying around for “defense,” it just adds to the pool of guns available.

Yeah, banning guns NOW probably wouldn’t do much, but we have far less crime over here, and no guns.
EDIT Dunno how to comment on this, apart from oh my god I am so glad I don’t live there